tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post6881274634492553316..comments2024-03-14T10:31:26.918+00:00Comments on DCblog: On cups and mugsDChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-36126461868364881122018-02-06T00:43:00.653+00:002018-02-06T00:43:00.653+00:00Well, I have to admit that there is a certain inst...Well, I have to admit that there is a certain instinct (and a distinct pleasure)to huddle over a hot morning "cuppa" cradled in both hands. Even when the cup or mug has a handle it seems more likely to be ignored in the morning rather than later in the day. Maybe that's why.Bronx Surgeonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-26550323415520438832018-02-05T10:02:34.948+00:002018-02-05T10:02:34.948+00:00Haven't come across that one. Just looked up t...Haven't come across that one. Just looked up the collocation 'morning cup' on Google and nothing specific turns up. Some things described as morning cups have handles, some don't. There may be a cultural background to the usage. In several parts of the world I've visited the cuos don't have handles and people hold then with two hands. Interesting...DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-67956473354347932812018-02-03T23:45:59.588+00:002018-02-03T23:45:59.588+00:00I just saw an Art Nouveau set of six "Morning...I just saw an Art Nouveau set of six "Morning Cups" from the Weiner Werkstatte. They were about 4 oz. rounded bone china cups without handles. Does anyone know if there is something specific about a "Morning Cup" compared to other coffee or tea cups?Bronx Surgeonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-91114898519376944672015-05-18T02:59:09.073+00:002015-05-18T02:59:09.073+00:00The Japanese word isn't really describing a hy...The Japanese word isn't really describing a hybrid object, it is the word for mug:<br />(See these links to online dictionaries)<br />http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1E<br />http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%82%AB%E3%83%83%E3%83%97<br />http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%82%AB%E3%83%83%E3%83%97<br /><br />The native Japanese words such as chawan,yunomi etc. denote the various drinking/eating vessels that they would drink soup/sake/tea or whatever out of.<br /><br />The loanword "koppu" (from Dutch) is a glass or tumbler (cup without handles)<br /><br />"Kappu" is another loanword (from English, I presume) for cups with handles (and measurements, bra-sizes, etc.)<br /><br />"Magukappu" (Japanese creation derived from English) is a mug. I suppose they think of mugs as a subset of cup.<br /><br />My amateur guess is that because this is because it was a foreign derived neologism the "kappu" part references the familiar object and the "magu" part emphasizes that it is a different (bigger) kind of cup. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-56414896362220766312015-04-27T09:06:58.136+00:002015-04-27T09:06:58.136+00:00Very useful. Thanks, Stephen.Very useful. Thanks, Stephen.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-68258550407080669882015-04-27T01:38:19.459+00:002015-04-27T01:38:19.459+00:00A couple of relevant references from lexical seman...A couple of relevant references from lexical semantics and cognitive anthropology:<br /><br />Kempton, Willett. "Category grading and taxonomic relations: A mug is a sort of a cup." American Ethnologist 5.1 (1978): 44-65.<br /><br />Wierzbicka, Anna. "Cups and mugs: Lexicography and conceptual analysis." Australian Journal of linguistics 4.2 (1984): 205-255.Stephen Chrisomalishttp://glossographia.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-79130354668373178702015-04-26T11:22:42.916+00:002015-04-26T11:22:42.916+00:00Yes, and most people in the survey said they would...Yes, and most people in the survey said they would eat rather than drink soup.<br /><br />That's an interesting point about the phonetics. There could well be a sound symbolic set of associations here, with the voiceless consonants carrying through 'cup of soup' and the voiced consonants in 'mug' maybe suggesting something earthier.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-82372086336533332942015-04-26T10:13:16.396+00:002015-04-26T10:13:16.396+00:00We tend not to think of soup as a drink, but there...We tend not to think of soup as a <b>drink</b>, but there are a few savoury drinks. The only two I can think of collocate (for me) not with <i>cup</i><br /><br />a mug of Bovril<br />a mug of Oxo<br /><br />I wonder whether the anticipated <b>/p/</b> sound at the end of <i>soup</i> acts as a below-the-radar trigger prompting <i>cu<b>p</b></i> over <i>mug</i>.David Crosbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858358459416955921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-75772806256654203192015-04-26T08:30:44.394+00:002015-04-26T08:30:44.394+00:00Chiara: Interesting. Didn't know that.Chiara: Interesting. Didn't know that.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-43268568188993627942015-04-26T08:27:30.257+00:002015-04-26T08:27:30.257+00:00Yes these are often heard. They date from the earl...Yes these are often heard. They date from the early 18th century, and probably arose because of the fashion of the time to put bizarre human faces <br />on drinking mugs.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10192779827863835310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-83261270626483376612015-04-26T07:14:18.492+00:002015-04-26T07:14:18.492+00:00Meanwhile the America's Cup is known as the &q...Meanwhile the America's Cup is known as the "auld mug"!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938857151973569193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8377709913595182916.post-38403960590705452852015-04-26T01:14:59.816+00:002015-04-26T01:14:59.816+00:00Wondering if anyone else has heard the expressions...Wondering if anyone else has heard the expressions<br />1) "it's a mugs' game" for a game or activity that in the speaker's view is not worthy of discussion. <br />2) "'X' is such a mug"- following on from 1) anyone who participates in these activities and carries the connotation of being very naive.<br /><br />Originally from Dublin, Ireland. Maybe expressions are 'Dublinese'?Liznoreply@blogger.com